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Suggestion Title: DSU/FSD Suggestions

Division: MET - DSU

Right, so this is a long one, so get ready.

I personally love DSU, but at this moment in time, the division is very boring, I don't mean to be rude to command, but that's just how I feel.

So, I came up with some suggestions, that can improve DSU/FSD as a whole.

FSD:

Dolphin: Right, I have been speaking to a sergeant about this before, but I'm putting it on here due to the fact that it could be great. With the new feature of Pickup/drop, we are able to pick up the dog when we feel it and drop the dog, when we feel it. Which could work perfectly with CTSFO. By repelling dolphin/NPAS, we are able to stop suspects quickly and work with CTSFO to neutralise all the suspects.

Ridealongs: FSD Buddys, I believe that FSD buddies should be a thing to regular units, which would ideally be good, cause not only do they see an insight of what FSD do, they still somewhat get can insight of what DSU do as well. It would be a cool decision/thing to implement and I believe a lot of fellow officers not in DSU would love it.

Scene Command: Another suggestion is scene command for FSD, what I mean by this is that that chosen person in the FSD thread can put loads of feedback, and monitor all FSD on that mini operation for DSU. And even on Friday ops, they can go upstage and explain how they think FSD did/how it all went. And feedback can be posted in the FSD thread, to show that we can all learn from some things, and ensure we follow the correct rules/regulations at all times.

FSD Trainer Or TL: So it's similar to the one above, FSD TLs were brought up in the forums, but were simply denied, which I believe isn't the correct answer. I personally think a trusted person should be chosen, to monitor/train and lead FSD. They can bring new innovations towards FSD, help out with training, and bring the workload down a lot from DSU TLs and Sgt+

DSU:


Open Day: I believe, every so often, DSU should have an open day, meaning that all units, including ERT/RTPC/AFO/CID and all other members branching off to CIV/LFB/NH can come down to the chosen area or even Davis, and showcase multiple DSU cars/dog peds we have. This would be good as it can bring huge attention to DSU, and get loads of members excited to Join when applications open. (This can also be used if it was for the whole policing side Of PMP)

Mini Ops: In team threads, we normally have a basic competition of HOTM, Handler Of The Month, which in my opinion, can get really boring. Each team should be selected for a different thing each month. Where that be how times we find drugs on a person/vehicle. Or showing a great attitude towards the division. Loads of things could come up, and I believe it would be great, to get the team threads active, and get the teams a lot of more competitive.

Advanced DSU: Now this may be a picky one, but I do see why, and why not. So Adv DSU, how I like this to be implemented into DSU is simply by making a training package and ensuring all handlers, that they know the rules when performing tactics. So the way this would work is, the vehicle is at a complete standstill and can perform the only move of taking the rear of the car. Which should be done very carefully, and not be done like idiots. DSU would make the move on the rear of the car, and safely bring the car to a stop. DSU would then do the normal duties of i.e Searching the suspect/car. The only time this would actually be performed is that the RTPC is lacking recourses and only DSU can do it on a standstill instead of an actual pursuit.

There we are, some suggestions. I do really hope these are thought about, as these suggestions can be a great thing to be implemented into DSU/FSD.

I love the division but at the moment, it's at a low. This is just my opinion: command is doing a great job at running this division, but I think more decisions/suggestions can come into place.

Thank you for reading, Willing to hear others' thoughts

Max H
 
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Suggestion Title: DSU/FSD Suggestions

Division: MET - DSU

Right, so this is a long one, so get ready.

I personally love DSU, but at this moment in time, the division is very boring, I don't mean to be rude to command, but that's just how I feel.

So, I came up with some suggestions, that can improve DSU/FSD as a whole.

FSD:

Dolphin: Right, I have been speaking to a sergeant about this before, but I'm putting it on here due to the fact that it could be great. With the new feature of Pickup/drop, we are able to pick up the dog when we feel it and drop the dog, when we feel it. Which could work perfectly with CTSFO. By repelling dolphin/NPAS, we are able to stop suspects quickly and work with CTSFO to neutralise all the suspects.

Ridealongs: FSD Buddys, I believe that FSD buddies should be a thing to regular units, which would ideally be good, cause not only do they see an insight of what FSD do, they still somewhat get can insight of what DSU do as well. It would be a cool decision/thing to implement and I believe a lot of fellow officers not in DSU would love it.

Scene Command: Another suggestion is scene command for FSD, what I mean by this is that that chosen person in the FSD thread can put loads of feedback, and monitor all FSD on that mini operation for DSU. And even on Friday ops, they can go upstage and explain how they think FSD did/how it all went. And feedback can be posted in the FSD thread, to show that we can all learn from some things, and ensure we follow the correct rules/regulations at all times.

FSD Trainer Or TL: So it's similar to the one above, FSD TLs were brought up in the forums, but were simply denied, which I believe isn't the correct answer. I personally think a trusted person should be chosen, to monitor/train and lead FSD. They can bring new innovations towards FSD, help out with training, and bring the workload down a lot from DSU TLs and Sgt+

DSU:


Open Day: I believe, every so often, DSU should have an open day, meaning that all units, including ERT/RTPC/AFO/CID and all other members branching off to CIV/LFB/NH can come down to the chosen area or even Davis, and showcase multiple DSU cars/dog peds we have. This would be good as it can bring huge attention to DSU, and get loads of members excited to Join when applications open. (This can also be used if it was for the whole policing side Of PMP)

Mini Ops: In team threads, we normally have a basic competition of HOTM, Handler Of The Month, which in my opinion, can get really boring. Each team should be selected for a different thing each month. Where that be how times we find drugs on a person/vehicle. Or showing a great attitude towards the division. Loads of things could come up, and I believe it would be great, to get the team threads active, and get the teams a lot of more competitive.

Advanced DSU: Now this may be a picky one, but I do see why, and why not. So Adv DSU, how I like this to be implemented into DSU is simply by making a training package and ensuring all handlers, that they know the rules when performing tactics. So the way this would work is, the vehicle is at a complete standstill and can perform the only move of taking the rear of the car. Which should be done very carefully, and not be done like idiots. DSU would make the move on the rear of the car, and safely bring the car to a stop. DSU would then do the normal duties of i.e Searching the suspect/car. The only time this would actually be performed is that the RTPC is lacking recourses and only DSU can do it on a standstill instead of an actual pursuit.

There we are, some suggestions. I do really hope these are thought about, as these suggestions can be a great thing to be implemented into DSU/FSD.

I love the division but at the moment, it's at a low. This is just my opinion: command is doing a great job at running this division, but I think more decisions/suggestions can come into place.

Thank you for reading, Willing to hear others' thoughts

Max H
Just my 2 cents about the "Advanced DSU" - I do not think it would be very safe for a dog unit to take part of a box, as it is very unexpected on how it is going to end up. The driver of the pursued vehicle can suddenly brake check you, or they can simply try and ram you off the road while executing tactics, which makes it unsafe for you guys to approach the vehicle especially when there is a dog in the back and it is part of the reason why traffic and firearms units are the only ones who can make contact with the vehicle. So with tactics on a vehicle, I am pretty sure it will stay the way it is, so RTPC/AFO only.
 
Good point, it will prob be more of the case that the car is at a standstill, and then perform. SO pre-emptive tactics and pursuit tactics could be heavily way too dangerous for something like a DSU. The front bumper would touch the rear bumper, as per, but it would only take place if legit its only like 1 RTPC 1 AFO on
 
Good point, it will prob be more of the case that the car is at a standstill, and then perform. SO pre-emptive tactics and pursuit tactics could be heavily way too dangerous for something like a DSU. The front bumper would touch the rear bumper, as per, but it would only take place if legit its only like 1 RTPC 1 AFO on
Honestly, still a chance of driver reacting to you attempting to preemptively stop him by slamming the gas and attempting to break out via ram or push during reverse, so still unsafe for me to be fair.
 
If you are taking the rear of the box and then accidently crash into the back of them that could not only hurt you but may injure the dog really badly
 
I doubt FSD would work with CT due to the fact their raids are highly classified to the degree that even regular ARVs don't know what happens with them, giving FSD access to working with CT but leaving regular AFOs out of it would just create turmoil between the divisions. FSD and AFO already work closely together so I think that's good enough.
 
If you are taking the rear of the box and then accidently crash into the back of them that could not only hurt you but may injure the dog really badly
It would most likely have to be trialed, if it were to be like that, then we can think, it wouldn't be good, lets scrap it
 
I doubt FSD would work with CT due to the fact their raids are highly classified to the degree that even regular ARVs don't know what happens with them, giving FSD access to working with CT but leaving regular AFOs out of it would just create turmoil between the divisions. FSD and AFO already work closely together so I think that's good enough.
Fair point, these are just thoughts from the top of my head. Reason why I put on here to get others thoughts,
 
Also for FSD Tl the sub division isnt at a capacity to take on a team leader as CDode and DSU command said in pepsi's suggetion a few months ago.
 
Suggestion Title: DSU/FSD Suggestions

Division: MET - DSU

Right, so this is a long one, so get ready.

I personally love DSU, but at this moment in time, the division is very boring, I don't mean to be rude to command, but that's just how I feel.

So, I came up with some suggestions, that can improve DSU/FSD as a whole.

FSD:

Dolphin: Right, I have been speaking to a sergeant about this before, but I'm putting it on here due to the fact that it could be great. With the new feature of Pickup/drop, we are able to pick up the dog when we feel it and drop the dog, when we feel it. Which could work perfectly with CTSFO. By repelling dolphin/NPAS, we are able to stop suspects quickly and work with CTSFO to neutralise all the suspects.

Ridealongs: FSD Buddys, I believe that FSD buddies should be a thing to regular units, which would ideally be good, cause not only do they see an insight of what FSD do, they still somewhat get can insight of what DSU do as well. It would be a cool decision/thing to implement and I believe a lot of fellow officers not in DSU would love it.

Scene Command: Another suggestion is scene command for FSD, what I mean by this is that that chosen person in the FSD thread can put loads of feedback, and monitor all FSD on that mini operation for DSU. And even on Friday ops, they can go upstage and explain how they think FSD did/how it all went. And feedback can be posted in the FSD thread, to show that we can all learn from some things, and ensure we follow the correct rules/regulations at all times.

FSD Trainer Or TL: So it's similar to the one above, FSD TLs were brought up in the forums, but were simply denied, which I believe isn't the correct answer. I personally think a trusted person should be chosen, to monitor/train and lead FSD. They can bring new innovations towards FSD, help out with training, and bring the workload down a lot from DSU TLs and Sgt+

DSU:


Open Day: I believe, every so often, DSU should have an open day, meaning that all units, including ERT/RTPC/AFO/CID and all other members branching off to CIV/LFB/NH can come down to the chosen area or even Davis, and showcase multiple DSU cars/dog peds we have. This would be good as it can bring huge attention to DSU, and get loads of members excited to Join when applications open. (This can also be used if it was for the whole policing side Of PMP)

Mini Ops: In team threads, we normally have a basic competition of HOTM, Handler Of The Month, which in my opinion, can get really boring. Each team should be selected for a different thing each month. Where that be how times we find drugs on a person/vehicle. Or showing a great attitude towards the division. Loads of things could come up, and I believe it would be great, to get the team threads active, and get the teams a lot of more competitive.

Advanced DSU: Now this may be a picky one, but I do see why, and why not. So Adv DSU, how I like this to be implemented into DSU is simply by making a training package and ensuring all handlers, that they know the rules when performing tactics. So the way this would work is, the vehicle is at a complete standstill and can perform the only move of taking the rear of the car. Which should be done very carefully, and not be done like idiots. DSU would make the move on the rear of the car, and safely bring the car to a stop. DSU would then do the normal duties of i.e Searching the suspect/car. The only time this would actually be performed is that the RTPC is lacking recourses and only DSU can do it on a standstill instead of an actual pursuit.

There we are, some suggestions. I do really hope these are thought about, as these suggestions can be a great thing to be implemented into DSU/FSD.

I love the division but at the moment, it's at a low. This is just my opinion: command is doing a great job at running this division, but I think more decisions/suggestions can come into place.

Thank you for reading, Willing to hear others' thoughts

Max H
this is a clip of the dolphin usage irl
 
Dogs a unit jeez, this would be realistic as you can see the video that Ryan posted
 
The only issue if you go out with CTSFO is if there is shots fired where would you go and take cover. As CTSFO go near the shots fired and then dolphin goes up and away quickly.
 
Everything up here^ is something which could be trialled, nothing has to be accepted straight away. It just needs to be trialled with others, and if it does not work, we can then come down to an agreement that it simply does not work.
 
this is a clip of the dolphin usage irl
So my two pence;

Firstly thats in America, and likely a federal agency.

Its very unlikely CT would deploy regularly with a dog as objectively a dog is a extra unknown to worry about. I do know in the UK they do deploy some FSD via helicopter, but again very specialised and specific.

Truthfully, we wouldn’t do it. As that means having FSD in a AFO uniform without guns… just gets complicated for Civ scenes & FSD will always want to capture the suspect, thus taking away from AFO. As well as the dauphins have limited seating, and its better served by CT using a seat than a dog handler.

I feel the current input FSD/DSU have with AFO is at a correct threshold.

Scene command - this is usually reserved for SGT+ for obvious management and accountability purposes.

PS: No guns for FSD

Re: TPAC same issue, RPU do TPAC, DSU support.

Re: TL again that’s been responded to in a previous response, DSU is not at capacity so cannot recruit TL.

Re: mini ops - come up with as many as you like a post them to DSU command

Re: Open day, go wild speak to DSU command

I am a little disappointed to hear thats how you feel as I recently completed a complete overhaul on how DSU works both aesthetically and functionally. As DSU is actually a functional division post overhaul.

Cheers, forbs
 
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